Comments on: John Russell – Portrait of George de Ligne Gregory https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/ Info, opinion, and training on how to pastel with artist Gail Sibley BFA, MA Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:45:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.4 By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54925 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:45:18 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54925 In reply to Pam.

Hey Pam – I know what you mean about the good/bad melt! I always try to remember that there’s no one else who can be me. So learn and then think, how can I bring the learning into my own work?
Thank you for sharing the resource – that’s marvellous!! I had recently been guided to it in another instance but hadn’t thought to check for Russell’s book there. And I laughed at the “s”/”f” conundrum. Love that you’ve shared this all with us!!

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By: Pam https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54880 Sat, 11 Nov 2023 21:02:30 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54880 Hi Gail. Wow – this one causes me to melt a little – both in a good AND bad way. Good: astounding, exquisite work (and your deep dive is SO bang on). Bad: oh my goodness, how would it be possible to come even somewhat close to achieving this kind of perfection? No…it’s all good. It just makes me so grateful to the masters, past and current, for setting the bar so incredibly high, to prove to us that this kind of output from the human hand is actually possible.

I just wanted to share an incredible resource site, for anyone interested in reading The Elements of Painting in Crayon. This wonderful archive site has produced search results for me several times when looking for old books, music, films, etc. Take a look at their Projects page! (There’s so many good causes to support!)

Russell’s book is a work of art itself – hand bound, marbled paper, leather cover, etc. Of course, it’s all text, as art books were in the day, but I plan on reading it when time allows. Of course, typefaces were different then. I had to laugh – when reading the opening chapter, I asked myself, “What is a tafle? Must be some old artists’ term.” And then I looked closer and realized that, back then, the ‘s’ was often the same height and curvature as an ‘f’. He was talking about ‘taste’ LOL. It’s like reading Shakespeare – takes a while to get in the groove.

Thanks, as always, Gail. You find the best examples to take us deep-diving with you. Happy crayoning!

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54872 Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:47:18 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54872 In reply to Kay.

Oooooooo that’s so wonderful to hear Kay!!!

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By: Kay https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54870 Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:24:04 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54870 Wow! What a fabulous painting. It has truly blown me away…Thank you so much for analysing this for us Gail.

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54675 Sun, 29 Oct 2023 02:18:18 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54675 In reply to Andrea K Hofmeister.

Ohhhhh I’m so glad you took time looking at the details Andi.
And yes, those eyes! The successful creation of eyes (and much else as you’ve pointed out) often comes down to shapes, values, and edge quality rather than lines/outlines.

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54674 Sun, 29 Oct 2023 02:15:45 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54674 In reply to Wendy Prest.

Thanks for bringing up the comparison of materials available now and then Wendy. It’s amazing what can be accomplished even with limited supplies!

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By: Andrea K Hofmeister https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54666 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:33:58 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54666 I love the illusion of detail when, in fact, it’s quite loose. I also studied the eyes for a very long time. What amazes me is the lack of lines – that is, the vagueness of the edges. Fascinating.

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By: Wendy Prest https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54648 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 01:59:50 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54648 Thanks for helping us to explore that amazing portrait. Thinking of all the materials we have available in 2023 in contrast to what he had back then, his work is that much more admirable. The limited palette contributes to the seriousness of the subject. Great work!
Thanks Gail,
Wendy

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By: Gail Sibley https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54642 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 01:02:10 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54642 In reply to Meg Leonard.

You’re welcome Meg! And I’m glad it got you looking more closely at it.
If you look in the lower right corner, you can see what looks like the beige colour of paper. The Getty doesn’t tell us the colour of the paper. Often, the paper used was a blue colour which often has faded over time.

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By: Meg Leonard https://www.howtopastel.com/2023/10/john-russell-portrait-of-george-de-ligne-gregory/#comment-54636 Fri, 27 Oct 2023 22:01:32 +0000 https://www.howtopastel.com/?p=28726#comment-54636 Thanks for analyzing this amazing portrait. It made me look more deeply that I might have. What color do you suppose the background paper was? Did he tone it all with pastel?

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